Rough Collie and Sheltie owners

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 I wanted to get the opinion of all the Rough Collie and Sheltie owners out there. I currently have 4 dogs. One 9 year old Shipperke, one 7 year old lahsa apso, one 1 year old Papillon, and one 3 year old mutt who sort of looks a solid black border collie with the temperment of a golden retriever. I also have one 11 year old daughter who loves dogs, and sadly if you have read my previous thread, our 3 year old mutt is dying, which happens to be her dog. We will be moving to a house on an acre of land (completely fenced) in about a year. We won't be getting another dog until well after we have settled into our new home. This dog would be more geared towards being my daughters dog. The dog would sleep in her bed with her and be taken care of largly by her. Although all our dogs are like our children so I will have a part in it's training etc. when my daughter needs my help. I had considered a Boxer, but because of my little Papillon I worry about him getting trampled during play by accident being that Boxers are big silly goofballs who may accidently trounse on my Papillon. Plus the list of potential health problems of boxers made me think twice. I had also considered Australlian Shepherds, but I read several threads that made me come to the conclusion that this wouldn't be the best dog for a child.
Cavilier King Charles came to mind, but with their health problems, and after Ebu, I have some shell shock when thinking about getting a dog with a laundry list of health problems.
The Sheltie interested me because of it's intelligence and it's size, but their tendency to be shy may not work out well for my daughter. Also, are they difficult to house train? A Papillon is out of the question because he was the most difficult dog I have ever house trained. Our schipperke was house trained almost instantly, and I don't expect that, but I don't want another extended house breaking learning curve like I've had with my Papillon.
The Rough Collie interested me because of it's reputation for being good with children, and it seems like a hardy breed as far as health problems are concerned. I realize all breeds have potential of health problems, but with research alone, I'm going by what the breed standards say about common health issues. I wonder though, how a Rough Collie would do with my other dogs, particularly my Papillon. I couldn't find anything specific about dog aggression, and it seems these dogs can be rather large.
Basically I'm trying to strike a balance of a dog who will be great with my daughter, and will be suitable to blending in with my current dogs. There will be plenty of room and plenty of love for another dog in our new home, I just want to make the right decision.

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 I have a rough collie,Kala,and a small poodle Sissy,they get along great,I also have a 15 year peke,and there is no problem there either,the health problems can be hip displashia,or eye problems,but I think they mostly have that bred out of them now,but do get a reputable breeder,and have the pup of your chioce checked,my daughter has one to,with a five year old child,they get along great,with cats also,they are just a good all around family dog,but be aware they do have a lot of coat to brush daily,and they do shed a lot,but if you don't mind this,they are great dogs.

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 I think my mother said it best.^ In their awkward stage they can get a bit clumsy. So be aware of that. But normally they quickly learn that they have to be careful around smaller animals and children. You will need to do a regular grooming session with collies so be aware of that. It's best to brush once a day and do a through groom once a week. A good groom should last for at least an hour or two so make time for it. Otherwise they will start to mat.
I love the collie breed because they are like a big mom with fur. They will protect your children and alert you when something is wrong. Kota was also very easy to train.
Good luck finding the right dog/breed.

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 3 Attachment(s) I have a sheltie and a rough collie; I have to say that rough collies are more outgoing than a sheltie but you can never say that with any breed as there are always exceptions; I did once have a timid sheltie and as hard as I tried he remained timid even though I obtained him as a young pup of 8 weeks, whereas my 1st sheltie (Roman) who passed away 4 years ago was the most amazing dog I have ever had; he was a little person camouflaged as a dog, supremely intelligent and unbelievable affectionate even to strangers, gosh do I miss that little boy. A friend of mine has a female sheltie and she is a lovely little pet but is also timid and not overly demonstrative. Adam, my current sheltie is middle of the road, he can be affectionate but not overly so. My current rough collie is about 7 months old and he is a little shy but has his moments where he is all over me; my beloved Brendan (the one pictured in my avatar) passed away 4 months ago, he was 12 yo. He was outgoing, affectionate and intelligent. Be careful when it comes to rough collies as some and I emphasise some can be snappy and short tempered, this doesn't apply to each and every one of them but as I said, some do not like to be treated harshly...for instance they don't tolerate their coats being pulled (when you are brushing them for example) and can be quick to react...by that I mean that they may try to give a little bite and then run off, they're not prone to mauling a person.
I also have cavaliers and find them to be one of the best choice of dog for kids, easy going, affectionate, not hyperactive, not snappy. Yes, it is true that they can be prone to mitral valve disease but breeders are trying to eliminate or at least decrease the likelihood of this disorder and if you set out to buy from someone that conducts screening tests for this you are likely to end up with a perfectly healthy cavalier that will give you at least 10 wonderful years. All dogs and more so purebreds are prone to congenital health defects and it pays to buy from someone that carries out all the genetic screening needed for that particular breed.
The best temperament imo belongs to the boxer, they are such a happy kinda dog, they have a sense of humour and are such clowns...I just love this breed.
Here are some photos of my darling pooches, the middle attachment is of my sheltie, Adam.
This is Brodie, the rough collie.
This is Harley, the boxer with Holly the siamese.

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 My rough collie ahs always been very quiet, never jumped up or been snappy, she is very well manered and behaves great, her only downside if thats what you can call it is she is wary of strange men (yes i know all men are strange) this isnt a problem it just means she wont approach them and will back off if they approach her, she is good with my other dogs but does put them in their place.
I agree with the other s who have mentioned hair loss, when they moult boy do they do it in style, i came home one day and though i had a dead cat in the kitchen but its where holly had been lying.
As a breed they are lovely but as said before do your research into a particular breeders dogs to find the right one for you.

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 Thank you all for your input. I'm not afraid of grooming, I have a schippreke afterall, who can fill several shopping bags full of hair when she's brushed, and the dreaded Lahsa Apso grooming which I have professionally done once a month. I have a long time to think it over, but temperemant with a child is my top priority.

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 Collies are the number one kids dogs, IMO, but of course, I am biased.
I think that the collie is the best dog out there and yes, I am totally saying that as fact and not just opinion... :D
I could go on for hours, but I am exhausted. If you ask questions, lol, I will answer. Just don't have the brain power to think tonight.

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 Honestly, I think you could go either way here. To answer your question, shelties are easy to housebreak (IMO). And though they are shy and reserved towards strangers, they are very affectionate and loyal towards family members. They are also good with children, but I wouldn't suggest adopting an adult if you're a first time sheltie owner...the breed is sensitive and may come with emotional baggage. I've owned shelties all my life and I adore the breed, but there are downfalls (like any other breed), they are notorious barkers, and they love to chase things. Not all shelties conform to the breed standards/characteristics...for ex. our female is very outgoing and friendly towards strangers; and after a few sniffs, our male is quick to warm up as well. Feel free to PM me if you have any Qs:)

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 I have a rough collie Zorro. IMO they are GREAT with kids! Zorro is not even a year and knows that he has to protect our kids at all costs. Today for instance My hubby was tickling our son. Our son screamed (but didnt laugh) and Zorro jumped on sofa, pushed our son out of the way sat between my hubby and son and barked once at my husband. Kind of a "stop it" My son has learning difficulties that are causing him to have very poor speach. Zorro will not focus on his eyes but on his hands when he is giving him a command. He follows hand signals with our son better than me and I am the one training him. I think you cannot get a better family dog! In general I have heard collies are noisey and bark a lot. This was true for our Elmiina (who has been re-homed) but not for Zorro he very rarely barks. I the only thing I would say think about is you said it would be for your daughter and she would be taking care of the collie. There is a TON of brushing involved. A thought would be who is going to do it. But I think either a sheltie or a collie would be a great addition to your family!